Wednesday, November 04, 2009

Soldiers are not heroes.....



You do not like Facebook, you are not an active member, and you refuse to be so. Recently, while using a relative's Facebook account you stumbled across something, and if you had any feelings at all (which you don't), you would have been angry when you saw it.

The Facebook group called 'Soldiers are not heroes' include this in their 'mantra':

'Putting on a soldiers uniform does not make you a hero. Supporters of the group generally agree that the wars that our armed forces are participating in at the present time and in recent years are unnecessary and unjust. Therefore we don't feel that we should be pressured into offering "support" to people fighting and killing innocent people for causes that we don't believe in.'



You have a response and it comes in the form of a quote:

'It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.
It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protestor to burn the flag.'


- Father Dennis Edward O'Brian, USMC

12 Comments:

At 11:17 PM, Blogger Liri said...

Love the quote

 
At 8:53 AM, Anonymous The Nihilist said...

Sorry, but the word "hero" is being thrown around far too easily. They can do heroic things. The vast majority do. But for the word "soldier" to be synonymous with "hero" leads to this equation:

1. Soldiers are heroes.
2. The people that shot and raped civilians, acted in vengeance, committed war crimes and tortured prisoners are soldiers.
3. Therefore those people too, are heroes.

 
At 3:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just think how many lives could have been saved if all of those things were achieved through peace?

You say those things as if the soldiers were noble and brave, when the truth is their was probably an amicable not violent solution to the conflict, but as society refuses to change, so do the ways in which we resolve conflict.


For all your quotes, I return with this.

"The pen is stronger than the sword"

 
At 5:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have family overseas and this feels like your putting them down not cause your scared to help the innocent that you need to put others that do it down. Ask those little kids growing up in a battle zone who their hero is when a soldier has come and rescued them from a fire zone.... Im pretty sure itll be that soldier

 
At 10:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

my name is Kevin i will always be a marine and will always pray to god and salute the flag in a time of uncertainty we need to stand by are heroes and salute them cause we are all Americans.

 
At 7:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://wisesloth.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/american-soldiers-arent-heroes-theyre-victims/

 
At 12:35 AM, Anonymous Nemeses said...

I agree with that group 100%. We make it out to be like soldiers are demigods who do no wrong, saving civilian's worthless asses. Wrong. They signed up for that, knowing how few of them ever die, how safe the job is, and that they act more like murderers than warriors in the current war.

 
At 10:12 AM, Anonymous becky h said...

To the comment by nemeses!!! Im sure you would not be saying this if you had ever lost anybody through war! an yes some soldiers have let the group down by doing horrid things the the majority are doing their job for the right reason! and to flip it around more soldiers do heroic things then some civilians do and and higher percent civilians commit more crime then soldiers do! and what they do for the civilians in other countries im sure they thank them for as its not how you stupid ignorant people make out! they dont go out to shoot and kill its far from! you probably some jumped up ex uni unemployed idiot who has your opinion and never learns the FACTS!!!!

 
At 5:16 PM, Anonymous H. said...

Nonsense. Democracy, the right to free speech, lawful assembly, the right of women to vote and dozens more of the freedomes we take for granted today were won *not* by soldiers but by generations of working-class activists.
These people gave up their freedom and sometimes even their lives, often at the point of soldiers' bayonets as the state used them to * suppress* and *crush* freedom and democracy.
You clearly no little of history. Try learning some and while you're at it, read this http://harrypaterson.co.uk/politics-current-affairs/soldiers-are-not-heroes/ If you have the balls to let this through your moderation filter, of course...

 
At 3:41 AM, Anonymous Carl said...

Solders ARE HEROS,just because some of them commint crimes,it does not meen they all do,If it was not for our Soliders,this Country prob would not have as much freedom as we have,and all of you people that says they're not Heros,yall need to wake up and smell the coffee

 
At 8:51 PM, Blogger Josh Young said...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2005/07/base-crimes

"That’s still a rate of 14 cases for every 1,000 couples, compared with 3 per 1,000 among civilians."

This is for domestic violence.
Soldiers are far more likely to engage in many forms of crime, statistically speaking.

Being in the military does not make you a soldier, and almost every soldier I know, knows this to be true. They also know that being a soldier does not prevent you from being a hero.

 
At 8:51 PM, Blogger Josh Young said...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2005/07/base-crimes

"That’s still a rate of 14 cases for every 1,000 couples, compared with 3 per 1,000 among civilians."

This is for domestic violence.
Soldiers are far more likely to engage in many forms of crime, statistically speaking.

 

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